Lore talk:Ald Velothi

Bartering Hazard

The Oupost in this town seems to have been set up specifically to get you arrested and most of your belongings confiscated under the guise of law enforcement/prosecution/judge/executioner.

Despite one having only arrived in town and never before visited any of the buildings or picked up anything outside, once one sells any item to the general merchant in the outpost, some liar in another room - who obviously can't even see the item - will scream that it belongs to him or her, and every merchant in the building will run in, scream insults and death threats, and start pummeling away.

If one fails to comply with their demands that he "Die now, fetcher!" they will eventually pull weapons and use them.

If one runs away after they've nearly beaten him to death, and is naive enough to hunt down the Redoran Guard to report the unprovoked attacks, the policeman/prosecutor/judge/bailiff will commend him for turning himself in, but presumes guilt, passes a sentance, and attempts to execute it upon the victim.

If one is naive enough to defend himself against unprovoked attack, as is allowed under Redoran law, the merchants will suicidally fight to the death, and the game will announce that "Your crime has been reported." Downstrike (talk) 09:32, 28 January 2013 (GMT)

More than likely, you have stolen something that belongs to the Redoran Faction. The merchant, also a member of that faction, therefore recognizes it as stolen. That would be my immediate thought. Jeancey (talk) 15:43, 28 January 2013 (GMT)

Every time I've played the game, my first visit to Ald Velothi is prompted by instructions I received in Ald'ruhn, so it is very likely that I stole something belonging to a Redoran, (I tend to grab any empty soul gem I can).

However, I have never known merchants to differentiate between an item stolen from themselves and an item obtained either legitimately or illegitimately elsewhere. If it's the same style of item that was stolen from them, to them it's the very same one you stole, regardless where you really obtained it. Considering that lack of differentiation, it seems really odd that they would differentiate between an item stolen from someone else in their faction and one obtained elsewhere. Downstrike (talk) 18:45, 28 January 2013 (GMT)

Well, for example, I have stolen a diamond from the Alchemist in Balmora, which I immediately used to make some potions (or tried to). Later on (like days, levels later) I was in town, and I needed to sell some stuff, so I went to the alchemist, and sold her a diamond I had gotten from a Dwemer ruin. She then reported me for stealing "her" diamond, even though her diamond was long gone. It seems that when you steal something, it permanently assigns their ownership tag to all items in your inventory of that type. It is kinda strange the system they have set up. Jeancey (talk) 19:41, 28 January 2013 (GMT)

Yes, so I've long since learned not to steal anything from a merchant I might ever want to sell to, (having stolen a ring from the Khajiit general merchant in Balmora learned me that lesson). I also save prior to attempting persuasion on a merchant, which has always, (except one time before I adopted that strategy), given me a way of backing out of this trap in Ald Velothi. That first time in Ald Velothi, I lost weeks of game-time history in order to back out of it; I had simply lost too many supposedly stolen items when arrested. Downstrike (talk) 21:22, 28 January 2013 (GMT)

I've now approached this situation as a Redoran, and had none of this happen, so it definitely has something to do with the Redoran faction. Downstrike (talk) 00:18, 19 March 2013 (GMT)

Ald Velothi's Name

I know that the word Ald means Old in the Elven languages, but I'm curious if Velothi has any meaning. I know it comes from Veloth, who's a Patron to the Chimeri, but it should have some meaning since it's used commonly. --Vincentius1 (talk) 01:49, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure if there's an official translation, but for the Chimer, Velothi basically means "follower/believer of Veloth". There isn't enough information to know what Veloth's name means, and it doesn't really matter because the place is named for the Saint, not the name itself. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 10:21, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

I figured as much, I guess it really does mean Old Veloth, which is kind of disappointing to me. Thank you for answering though. --Vincentius1 (talk) 11:05, 30 August 2017 (UTC)