Lore talk:Ebonheart

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Rename[edit]

I was just thinking considering Ebonheart's notability in lore over the fortress on Vvardenfell, and the fact that it's now making it's second appearance in-game, perhaps the page should be moved to simply Ebonheart while moving the castle to something like Castle Ebonheart, Ebonheart (fortress) or something of the like, opinions? — Unsigned comment by StormySkies (talkcontribs) at 04:19 on 29 March 2014 (GMT)

I wouldn't mind "Castle Ebonheart", since Old Ebonheart isn't an official name anyway AFAIK. —Legoless (talk) 13:17, 29 March 2014 (GMT)
Ah. I was laboring under the delusion that it was. Minor EditsThreatsEvidence 13:38, 29 March 2014 (GMT)
If you use distant land on Morrowind PC it becomes very obvious that Ebonheart is an Imperial castle built right next to Vivec for Imperial business reasons. Makes sense to call it Castle Ebonheart, named after the city on the mainland. — Unsigned comment by 108.36.229.184 (talk) at 17:55 on 25 April 2014 (GMT)
As long as we have a source for Castle Ebonheart. Otherwise we may as well stick with this. —Legoless (talk) 21:21, 25 April 2014 (GMT)
Under the circumstances, I favor Ebonheart (city) and Ebonheart (castle). Otherwise, we risk giving readers (like me) the false impression that the name is official. Insignificant RevisionsThreatsEvidence 21:28, 25 April 2014 (GMT)
That works. —Legoless (talk) 21:51, 25 April 2014 (GMT)

() Any further objections/comments on moving these pages to Ebonheart (city) and Ebonheart (castle)? Insignificant RevisionsThreatsEvidence 23:22, 6 June 2014 (GMT)

I would favor just Ebonheart and Castle Ebonheart to avoid ugly parentheticals where they aren't necessary. The castle descriptor is used about a dozen times in MW dialogue ("Castle Ebonheart is the seat of Imperial authority on Vvardenfell", "Castle Ebonheart is the home of Duke Vedam Dren, the district's ruler and Emperor's representative."), as well as in Guide to Vvardenfell and The Real Barenziah v IV (which also references 'Old' Ebonheart as just Ebonheart). -- Hargrimm(T) 00:21, 7 June 2014 (GMT)
I would favor Ebonheart and Castle Ebonheart too, but after we decided to make the change, I would request one or two weeks of transition time to make sure all the links are moved over. There are likely hundreds of links to Ebonheart that need to be fixed, as well as books, lore articles and articles in other namespaces that are referring old ebonheart or ebonheart. Jeancey (talk) 02:58, 7 June 2014 (GMT)
Sounds good to me.Insignificant RevisionsThreatsEvidence 13:40, 7 June 2014 (GMT)
Okay since this seems to be a done deal is it alright if I start changing links to the city to just Ebonheart and to the castle to Castle Ebonheart?--StormySkies (talk) 01:23, 12 June 2014 (GMT)
JUST change Ebonheart to Castle Ebonheart. Old Ebonheart links will remain until we move the page, which will only be done once all the current ebonheart links are converted to castle ebonheart. This way everything will point to the correct page the entire time. Otherwise we would have a period of time where links to ebonheart would go to the castle page while they are supposed to go Old Ebonheart. Make sense? Jeancey (talk) 03:46, 12 June 2014 (GMT)

Clockwork City[edit]

Actually underneath Mournhold. Timeoin (talk) 07:31, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

One manifestation of an entrance is underneath Mournhold. That doesn't mean there aren't others. And the page is still correct; it is "often assumed" that it is under Ebonheart, whether it's actually true or not is unstated. --Enodoc (talk) 00:10, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Good point :) Timeoin (talk) 00:13, 18 October 2017 (UTC)