Lore talk:Heart of Lorkhan

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this page, among others[edit]

Now if only I could figure out how to give you one of those "Congrats, have a cookie" templates.24.97.239.147 18:58, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Heart is a meteor?[edit]

Hey, just wondering about the fact that since the Heart is meant to have crash-landed into the Vvardenfell area, is it in anyway like a super-powerful Varla or Welkynd stone? Since those stones are said to be meteoric glass and metal, and are known to contain some degree of power (Welkynds have the power to restore magicka, and Varlas recharge all enchanted weaponry [In Oblivion at least, haven't played Morrowind or the other two games]). After I thought about this a while, I decided that if the Heart is INDEED somehow akin to Varlas and Welkynds, does that mean they are somehow part of a god/goddess or some other great power too? And if so, can tools to be made to harvest their divinity, just like the heart (quite a few would be needed if this was the case, otherwise this might have been discovered in earlier games), obviously if they were somehow do hold divine properties, they would not be TOO great, and henceforth, unable to give someone immortality or some other great power...

Just a thought, but an interesting one, nonetheless

Godsbeard 06:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

No, no, no, no. If you had played Morrowind, then you would've known that the Heart was an actual, beating (yes, beating) heart. Although some in-game material refer to the Heart as a stone (and it does resemble a stone), it certainly isn't meteoric glass and metal. This heart is natural and organic, while Varlas and Welkynds are artificial. --Michaeldsuarez (Talk) (Deeds) 13:15, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
OK, thanks for replying, but just where are meteoric glass and metals from? Broken worlds? Godsbeard 21:50, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
...maybe they grow naturally--Corevette789 21:56, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
The details aren't clear in my mind at the moment, but Oblivion lore describes Welkynd and Varla stones as objects that fell from the sky. Given that they are objects of pure magic, they are bits of Aetherius that have passed through Oblivion just like all solar light and magic. And then there's that Oblivion quest revealing that they also grow organically. The Heart of Lorkhan is unrelated.74.65.142.202 18:50, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
i alwalys assumed that it was like a super-soul gem, filled with lorkhan's soul — Unsigned comment by 79.50.63.2 (talk) at 20:00 on January 5, 2012
That would be the Mantella. JosefEngarr 17:19, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

How big is it[edit]

How big is it if comparing with a man.(Vvardfell 13:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC))

Doom Drum[edit]

Lorkhan is called the Doom Drum, but sometimes the term is incorrectly (or at least inaccurately) used to refer to the Heart of Lorkhan itself. I think maybe a clarification on this page would be appropriate. Minor Edits 04:29, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Skyrim Reference[edit]

In the Skyrim quest Discerning the Transmundane, there is an obvious reference to The Heart - but it's not followed up in the quest, or anywhere in the game - the implication being, however, that it was not destroyed by the Nerevarine. Is this worth a mention somewhere on this page? SirBryghtside 18:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Added a section now, might need expansion. SirBryghtside 00:22, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't see that this tells us anything about the Heart. It looks more like Septimus Signus was just wrong in his believe that the Heart was to be found in the cube. --Alfwyn 14:45, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Or maybe Hermaeus Mora was blatantly lying to Septimus simply to increase his influence on Mundus. Which for a Daedra really isn't much a stretch. -- naledgeborn 17:43, 24 August, 2012 (UTC)
In The Monomyth it states,"But when Trinimac and Auriel tried to destroy the Heart of Lorkhan it laughed at them. It said, 'This Heart is the heart of the world, for one was made to satisfy the other." So Auriel fastened the thing to an arrow and let it fly long into the sea, where no aspect of the new world may ever find it.'" meaning the heart is prolly invincible, or simply not destroyed, but disappeared like the nature of daedric artifacts. --Billy The Daedra 03:32, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Heart of Lorkhan needed?[edit]

A note in Wylandra's(Did I spell it right?)quarterswas from the Collage of Winterhold.It said she wanted the Heart for experiment.Is this something that Bethseda wanted to do,to make people be a bit confused? — Unsigned comment by M'Laila (talkcontribs) at 22:18 on July 6, 2012

In a nutshell, yes, Bethesda likes making people confused. But if you're asking if the Heart makes an appearance or is needed for a quest, then no (at the moment). There are at least a couple people in Skyrim who seem to think the Heart is still around. And despite the events of Morrowind, maybe it is. Hard to say when you're talking about the purported heart of a god. It's hard to know with absolute certainty that such a thing is truly destroyed, even after smashing it to pieces yourself. Minor EditsThreatsEvidence 22:40, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
It could possibly be a similar thing to daedric artifacts. (Yes I realize that's different)When it was destroyed it could have just disappeared,
and soon resurfaced on Nirn, but at the moment no at the divine heart of the padomey Lorkhan has not resurfaced and probably never will.
--Billy The Daedra 21:53, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
Whatever the case, it's not our position to speculate. I suggest you take any other comments to the forums. --AKB Talk Cont Mail 04:59, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
The Heart's physical shell was destroyed, but it remains on Nirn. The page uses The Linar Lorkhan as a source, but I can't find anything directly backing this up. —Legoless 09:35, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Dragonborn Heartstone[edit]

Anyone notice that the obviously named ~Heart~stone in the Dragonborn dlc looks like the same texture as Lorkhans heart from Morrowind? Also it's the source of all the ash warriors just Dagoth Urs plan back in the day. I think we know what happened to the heart it's either dissipated to all these heartstone deposits from the volcano erupting or is still in the mountain and spreading this through the ash from there. — Unsigned comment by 184.167.129.21 (talk) at 06:54 on 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Daedric Essence[edit]

"the sole remnant of his original daedric essence" Isn't Lorkhan the exact opposite of a Daedra? Shouldn't it be more like "his original Et'Ada essence"? Baron Praxis (talk) 20:17, 22 November 2014 (GMT)

See the next paragraph of the article. It's not too clear what Lorkhan is, exactly. —Legoless (talk) 13:10, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

UOL addition[edit]

I added a UOL statement from an interview of several game devs such as Todd Howard, etc. in it, Kurt Kuhlmann states that at the end of Morrowind, the Heart of Lorkhan was freed from the mortal plane, as supported by azura, but she only stated it was freed. I believe this is important since in legends, it was stated to be destroyed. both viewpoints are noted, however, as we as a wiki should add various conflicting viewpoints on a subject.Zebendal (talk) 19:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)