Lore talk:Mer

Man Articles

If we have Mer and Beastfolk articles shouldn't we have a man article or just group them all together in something like a residents of Tamriel article?Varus Vantinius 12:20, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

It might be worth it, I suppose, as long is it adequately describes the aboriginal human tribes of Tamriel as well as the Atmora theory. I'd call it Lore:Humans rather than just Man. rpeh •T•C•E• 10:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't Bretons be listed here as well? — Unsigned comment by 50.102.21.25 (talk) on 7.09 16th july 2011

Bretons are a race of humans so they would not belong on the Mer article. If the article for humans had been created they would belong there, but for now you'll just have to look here. Masterlocksmith 08:50, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Bretons are not purely human, they have a shared nordic and aldmeric ancestry. Thus why they are called manmer. If there was a corresponding human article, I would suggest they be listed here as well as there.

I also think it's important to point out that the chimer did not disappear or die out per se, but rather are the ancestors of the dunmer. I also think in the same sense something should be mentioned about the aldmer as being the ancestors of all mer. I'm terrible at wiki-ing which is why I'm not making the changes myself. I'm not even sure how to sign this post. — Unsigned comment by 50.102.21.25 (talk) at 12:57 on 16 July 2011 (GMT

The Bretons are considered to be men, despite their mixed ancestry. As for the Aldmer and Chimer not "dying out", you could say the same for the Ayleids and the Falmer. In any case, they're gone now, and in biological terms that means they're extinct. --Legoless 15:36, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

A Breton is a man like a mixed person is black. You can consider an inaccuracy to be true all you want, it doesn't make it any less inaccurate. — Unsigned comment by 50.102.21.25 (talk) on 19 July 2011

(←) Drawing parallels between the real and game worlds is a futile exercise. Bretons are men, not mer. Deal with it. rpeh •T•C•E• 08:25, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not arguing that Bretons aren't men. I'm only saying they are also, in part, to a much lesser degree, elves. Because they are, it is not only obvious it is a defining factor of what a Breton is. They're magical creatures to an extent, and the only human race with a natural magickal affinity. This is because elves are magical creatures, and a breton is a tiny bit elvish.

It is mentioned several times on the breton page, I just don't see why this page shouldn't mention bretons as distant relations of elves. The page is kind of sparse in any case, I don't imagine more information about elvish history and lineage would be a detraction. — Unsigned comment by 50.102.26.108 (talk) at 23:47 on July 23, 2011

I've added a stub template to the page, as it needs a lot of work. In a completely comprehensive article, you would be right in expecting Bretons to be mentioned. --Legoless 11:39, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Lifespan

Has the lifespan for the Mer races ever been mentioned? I assume it's greater than that of a human but have we ever been told, how greater it is? --Pin-Pin-Ire 18:35, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Older than 150 years to the very least. SFK363 19:58, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I think something about their lifespan should be added here. There are examples of elves living 1000 years or more (only wizards?), but commonly it's a lot less. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Interview_with_a_Dark_Elf Also "Katisha's face briefly wore the envious, wistful look humans got when contemplating the thousand-year lifespan Elves had been granted by the gods. True, few ever actually lived that long as disease and violence took their respective tolls. But they could. And one or two of them actually did." from The Real Barenziah. Barenziah herself must have lived at least 400-something years. Class and magic ability probably makes a big difference. Merfnad (talk) 17:25, 14 November 2012 (GMT)

Edits

I have chosen to not transclude the sections because the transclusion would include pictures that are not lined up to the sections properly. If someone could make it so those pictures would be like that, then I would be happy to make the page full of transclusions instead. I would appreciate if before anyone changes them to tranclusions they put their reasons here so I don't undo their edit(s). -- Ad Intellige Mecum loqui 22:28, 11 April 2013 (GMT)

We have spent quite a bit trying to fix it, so I will undo your edit. The images should now no longer be transcluded. Jeancey (talk) 23:21, 11 April 2013 (GMT)

Worship me for I have fudged a fix. Silence is Golden^{Break the Silence} 23:28, 11 April 2013 (GMT)

Still borken on Online race pages. But we will let master wizard Jak deal with that. Jeancey (talk) 23:29, 11 April 2013 (GMT)

The ammount of births

As of ESO, there are multiple mentions of rather big elven families, consisting of multiple siblings, which would at least partially go against quote from Real Barenziah that refers to elven fertility. As the page states: The average elven woman can conceive twice, but no more than four (and even that is considered rare). Following ESO characters (possibly more) state things that are either miraclous multiple twins births or simply ignoring the previously establishing lore and as such retconing it:

-Online:Eveli_Sharp-Arrow- A Bosmer who mentions having 11 other siblings and mentions that is common family size among Bosmer.

-ON:Mirri Elendis- A Dunmer whose father is referred as seventh son, of a seventh son and she herself states that she has numerous siblings though she never specifies the ammount.

-ON:Pentarch Kovan Indoril- Another Dunmer who calls himself sixth son out of eight in the family Tyrvarion (talk) 17:03, 9 September 2021 (UTC)