Lore talk:The Amulet of Kings

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If my understanding is correct, the destruction of the Amulet of Kings and the end of the Alessia's bloodline would certainly mean that the mortal plane would stand vulnerable to the wrath of Oblivion. As daedra cannot ever be killed, Dagon has simply been banished from Tamriel with his defeat at the end of the 3rd Era by the joined blood of Akatosh and Alessia's descendant, but this is not any guarantee that he cannot be summoned once again and invade Tamriel... How exactly is the "victory" at the end of Oblivion truly going to keep the hordes of Oblivion at bay?

Will a new amulet need to be forged with a new bloodline? — Unsigned comment by (talk)

As I understand it, the Dragonfires were used to sort of avert the Oblivion gates, like a fire keeps away wild animals. After the defeat of Mehrunes Dagon they didn't need the Dragonfires anymore, because the gates had been totally sealed (like you killed all the wild animals and as such, didn't need a fire anymore to keep them away). 11:44, 31 May 2008 (EDT)
I'm not sure that's the end of it though. Martin said "the games of Oblivion have been sealed forever" yet Sheogorath was able to open a door in the Niben bay. What's the difference between that door and an oblivion gate? And if it's only meant to protect against invasions then what's the limit? Are daedra allowed to go from Mundus to Oblivion and not vice versa? 14:48, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Sheogorath's door was different. As Haskill explained: "It poses no danger to Mundus; no compact has been violated. It is a doorway, an invitation. Perhaps you will accept it for what it is." The only things that came through it were people originally from the Cyrodiil side of the door. Very different to Oblivion gates. I'd be very surprised if we've seen the last of Oblivion, but it does seem as though the mortal world is safe from direct invasion now. rpeh •TCE 15:02, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
The gates from Dagon's partition in oblivion are sealed forever. No connection can ever be made from any point in dagon's hellish fireplace to Tamriel. The door in niben bay is from another daedric prince: Sheogorath, the prince of madness. The rule above doesnt apply to his partition in Oblivion which happens to be the shivering isles. — Unsigned comment by (talk) on 21 October 2011
No, that's not what the game says, and not what's added by the novels. All planes of Oblivion are sealed off, not just Dagon's. That's why Umbriel from the novels is always described as still being a part of Clavicus Vile's realm - precisely so it doesn't violate the rule. rpeh •TCE 04:52, 21 October 2011 (UTC)