Lore talk:Tsun

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Tsun is Zenithar[edit]

The Notes section says "While Tsun's brother Stuhn entered the Imperial pantheon of the Eight Divines as Stendarr,[1] it's unclear whether Tsun bears any relation with any other cultural aspect of a deity," but I thought Tsun was Zenithar. RearEchelon (talk) 02:20, 22 September 2013 (GMT)

You're going to have to provide a reason why you think this in order for it to be countered or verified. As it stands I don't see anything to back your "Tsun is Zenithar" theory. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 02:35, 22 September 2013 (GMT)
Having researched both topics, I can with certainty state that there's nothing (in-game, at least) to corroborate such a relation. They are both warriors, and both can be loosely associated with overcoming adversity, but that describes a great plethora of warrior gods. Zenithar is a god of restraint, Tsun is one that must be restrained. Zenithar "always win[s]", whereas Tsun was killed in battle and has taken on a role in the next life where it's practically his job to lose. There's nothing to go on here. Minor EditsThreatsEvidence 04:46, 22 September 2013 (GMT)
The chart on the Lore:Gods page lists Tsun as the Nordic version of Zenithar. That whole page is taken from the Varieties of Faith, where Tsun is placed between Orkey and Mara in "THE EIGHT PANTHEONS" section. Zenithar is placed between Arkay and Mara (respectfully) in three other pantheons (Cyrodiil, Yokuda, Bretony) and before Arkay in one (Bosmer). Also, the name Tsun is similar to Z'en and Xen, names for Zenithar. I think there's enough circumstantial evidence to conclude that there exists a connection (also, that bit is in the "Notes" section of the article, and as far as I know, we're allowed to be a bit more liberal with the lore there). In case this isn't enough to establish a connection between them, we should edit the Lore:Gods article instead. -- Kertaw48 (talk) 20:50, 29 March 2014 (GMT)
M'kay? Minor EditsThreatsEvidence 01:03, 1 April 2014 (GMT)

() Tsun IS in the same place as Zenithar, Z'en and Zeht, but also the same as Syrabane, Boethiah, Dibella and ja-Kha'jay.
Being written in the same position doesnt mean being the same deity. They could be sorted by importance or similiar jobs. Sotha Sil is not the same as Magnus but they're both Wisdom and magic god with an architect aspect (But i wouldn't write about in the notes...).

  • The altmers Mara ist cyrodiils Kynareth and breton-Zenithar is two gaps to the right. The breton-zenithar is Dibella...
  • Vivec is in second place but has no connection to any other deity there. He is unique to the dunmeri pantheon as Tsun is to the nordic.
  • Not even the Lorkhans are always in the same gap.
Cyrodiil Akatosh Dibella Arkay Zenithar Mara Stendarr Kynareth Julianos Shezarr Tiber Septim Morihaus Reman
Skyrim Alduin Dibella Orkey Tsun Mara Stuhn Kyne Jhunal Shor Ysmir Herma-Mora Maloch
Altmer Auri-El Trinimac Magnus Syrabane Y'ffre Xarxes Mara Stendarr Lorkhan Phynaster
Bosmer Auri-El Y'ffre Arkay Z'en Xarxes Ban Daar Mara Stendarr Lorkhan Herma-Mora Jone Jode
Dunmer Almalexia Vivec Sotha Sil Boethiah Mephala Azura Lorkhan Nerevar Molag Bal Malacath Sheogorath Mehrunes Dagon
Yokuda Satakal Ruptga Tu'whacca Zeht Morwha Tava Malooc Diagna Sep HoonDing Leki Onsi
Bretony Akatosh Magnus Y'ffre Dibella Arkay Zenithar Mara Stendarr Kynareth Julianos Sheor Phynaster
Elsweyr Alkosh Khenarthi Riddle'Thar ja-Kha'jay Mara S'rendarr Lorkhaj Rajhin Baan Dar Azurah Sheggorath

I think we should delete this theory from the article ... --Pakshee (talk) 09:53, 27 February 2021 (UTC)