Morrowind talk:Mephala's Quest

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Starting quest later?[edit]

I told Taros Dral I couldn't help him a while back and now that I know he's part of a Daedric Quest I do want to help him but he won't say anything else about sensitive matters now. I'm sure someone will come along shortly to tell me it's normal procedure to expect that if you turn down someone's offer you can't ever offer to help them again, but if it's not maybe there should be a warning in the notes? (I remember turning someone down and then coming back when I wasn't busy to help them...) Jihiro 02:09, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Also of note, I tried to 'cheat' through by stealing the treated bittergreen petals from Taros and going to Balyn's house, but clicking on his cauldron did nothing. (which I expected to happen anyways..) Jihiro 02:13, 18 January 2008 (EST)
Most quests have 'I refused to help' journal entries, which basically prevent you from going back later and saying 'I'll help now'. There are a small number where you can do this, but not many.
As for the petals, I'm guessing that because the act of putting them in the cauldron is scripted, it's set to only work if you have the correct journal entries. --Gaebrial 03:14, 18 January 2008 (EST)
I would like to note that if the quest is denied the first time it's offered, the topic disappears as well.— Unsigned comment by Bluemu (talkcontribs) at 08:30 on 28 December 2009‎

no "sensitive matters"[edit]

When I go to talk with Taros Dral, the option of speaking about "sensitive matters" does not come up (even once the other subjects are exhausted). His disposition is at 100. I am wondering if my character being the grandmaster changes things in any way, or more specifically how can I get the quest. I'm using Xbox GOTY edition.

I never talked to Taros Dral before and checked my log book to make sure. Loading previous games showed me that "sensitive matters" is removed as a topic when I became grandmaster.

Thanks — Unsigned comment by Bluemu (talkcontribs) at 08:58 on 28 December 2009

I haven't seen that myself, but since Taros is also in the Morag Tong it makes sense that his greeting would change. How exactly does he greet you now? –rpehTCE 10:10, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
He says "What can I do for you Grandmaster" - I mostly just ticked off that I can't do the quest. — Unsigned comment by Bluemu (talkcontribs) on 29 December 2009
Ah yes. Both greetings are in the Greeting 5 section. I've added some console commands to the article that will start the quest even if you're already the BM, but I'm afraid they won't help you since you're on the XBox. –rpehTCE 09:13, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. I wish I could go back... but alas.

Bluemu 09:37, 29 December 2009 (UTC)


Petals[edit]

added by 72.147.34.113 on 20:18, 7 February 2010 in notes:

  • If you have, for any reason, more than the 5 portions of the Treated Bittergreen Petals, the pot will take 6 portions and your journal will not update and say you have poisoned him - use the console to update the quest to 50 to overcome this.

I've moved this to discussion. It links to a construction set page and i wonder if there is any way to accidentally obtain more than 5 treated petals without cheating through the console in the first place? Marcel 19:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Weird thing...[edit]

I found this quite weird. When you do this quest , and talk to the shrine. Look at your player. On my Xbox , I saw his mouth moving as Mephala was talking. It is really weird thing. What do you reckon guys? JackTurbo95 16:24, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

This happens in Morrowind as well. I interpret it as the Daedric Princes using you as a conduit between the realms. Possessing your voice or something. It's definitely not a bug, as the devs already have dummy NPCs for the shrines to control the dialogue. Legoless 16:36, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
I was thinking do they posses you. It is weird but I thought it might of been notable in the genral daedric quests page. JackTurbo95 16:44, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

No Quest Stage 20[edit]

Can't seem to get this journal even if I'm one of the Morag Tong or not. Aven 18:01, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

You're right. I've added a note. rpeh •TCE 18:11, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

NPC name discrepancy[edit]

"The error was with the house, NOT the name of the person. It is MUCH easier to change the name and references of a person than to change the name and references of a cell, so that's what they did)"

This is most likely the case, however, there is no doubt that there is a name discrepancy among the various references to this NPC. It was frustrating when I tried to find "Balyn Omavel's" house and it didn't match the person/location I was looking for, until I realized something wasn't quite right. Because I have the Morrowind Patch Project installed I initially thought the NPC was misnamed on the UESP page because the NPC, all quest dialogs, his house and the in-game map referred to "Omarel", yet the UESP quest page referred to "Omavel".

Based on your feedback I realized that my first attempt at correcting this "misspelling" was in error and this caused me to investigate further. I ran the game without the MPP and found that the NPC's name and quest dialogs say Omavel, while his house and the map locations say Omarel. I cannot categorically state which is the misspelled, only that the names do not match.

Please read my (now updated) note again (copied below for convenience) and notice that I did not use the term "misspelled" to describe any of the name inconsistencies, only that there is a discrepancy. I thought this a rather elegant way to note the name confusion for future users, inform users how the issue is resolved by the MPP and help prevent users running the MPP from making the same mistake I did of "correcting" every instance of the NPC's name. My note does not state that one or the other is misspelled, only that the names do not match and players should take note.

  • Due to errors in the game data, Balyn's last name is spelled "Omavel" in quest dialogs and when you encounter him in-game, while the doors to his house and the in-game map location(s) are spelled "Omarel". The Morrowind Patch Project fixes this discrepancy by changing the NPC name and all quest dialogs to "Balyn Omarel", which is easier to do than changing the name of a cell.

Jondrasar (talk)

I approve of your solution. The only change I made was a tweak to spelling (we use dialogue rather than dialog. Both are correct, but for consistency we use the first. :) ). Jeancey (talk) 18:24, 31 January 2013 (GMT)
Also, we've created a redirect for the NPC page with the alternate spelling. Hopefully this will make it easier for users searching that name in the future as well. — ABCface 18:38, 31 January 2013 (GMT)

Use of the Pot is Counter-Intuitive[edit]

No wonder I could never get this quest to work! I always physically placed the petals into the pot; it rarely occurred to me that the pot was something I could activate, because I tried to activate it once, but nothing happened. I suppose I was probably in Sneak mode, because due to the repeated failures of the quest, I would do everything in Sneak mode from the moment I left the Guild Guide, (except that I had to leave Sneak mode to jump onto the roof and then I would use Shadow or Invisibility and immediately go back to Sneaking), until I went to visit Caius afterward.

Someone once told me that the woman who paces up and down the street that ends at Caius' house was snitching on me to Balyn, so on their advice, I needlessly, (probably), would assassinate her before beginning the quest. Other times I waited, seemingly for ages, for her to go out of sight.

After much frustration and wasted time, I simply avoided receiving this quest, or even talking to the NPC that offers it. Now that I understand how it's supposed to work, I'll give it another try. Downstrike (talk) 20:27, 7 April 2013 (GMT)

Yes this quest is quite confusing. Jeancey (talk) 22:50, 10 April 2013 (GMT)