Online talk:Ten-Maur-Wolk

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Tenmar Wall[edit]

Both the Second Era name of this place (Ten-Maur-Wolk) and the ancient name (Tenmorvuk) strongly resemble the name of Tenmar Wall, a town in Black Marsh featured in Arena. On the Arena map of Black Marsh, Tenmar Wall is located approximately where Ten-Maur-Wolk is, between Stormhold and Alten Corimont. Do you think it would be reasonable to connect these locations and make a lore page for them? --Vordur Steel-Hammer (TINV1K) 20:38, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

While it would probably be reasonable to do so, I don't think that we should make that connection on a lore page here. Similar name and location isn't enough to be entirely sure of a connection (even though there most likely is one), and we should avoid speculation on lore pages. We don't treat Old Run in Arena and Ald'ruhn in later games as the same location either. A note about the similarities on their respective game pages could be added, though. —Aran Anumarile Autaracu Alatasel (talk) 07:59, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Ald'ruhn and Old Run are on opposite sides of the island, so they can't really be considered the same just by the name criterion; in this case, the relative locations match. We made connections on similar basis in the past, for example Greymoor, which describes a town from Arena and The Real Barenziah and a fort from Skyrim, and it had three similar but not identical names in all three sources. But you're right in that it'd be nicer to have stronger proof. --Vordur Steel-Hammer (TINV1K) 06:30, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
If I can add something here, there are barely connections to a location in Arena, to a similar one in a later game. So little that the strongest connection is their name. Basing it from location isn't reliable because there are examples of two similar locations, but located far from each other, for example, Sunguard (near the Riften) and Fort Sungard (in the Reach), and Archen Cormount and Cormount. There have been very few cases where they mention locations being the same as one from Arena, with Anticlere and Balmora being good examples. I don't have a worded source for this, but what they basically do is take any location from Arena, and rework it into whatever they want, you can tell by the location names. I think it's reasonable to make the page and the connection.--Vincentius1 (talk) 02:07, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
That was the idea - and a lot of further cases like this one can be found in the new Summerset chapter: Tor-Hame-Khard/Thorheim Guard, Sil-Var-Woad/Silverwood, Archon's Grove/Archen Grangrove, King's Haven Pass/Kings Haven, Russafeld/Rosefield etc. Since, as you said, we usually make the connection on the basis on the name, not the location, then as long as the name is similar enough to ring a bell, I'd say it's ok. --Vordur Steel-Hammer (TINV1K) 06:32, 7 May 2018 (UTC)