Shivering talk:Dawnfang and Duskfang

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Absorbing Souls?[edit]

* The swords seem to absorb the souls of the enemies they kill on certain occasions (possibly as long as it won't waste part of the soul) though soultrap appears to be needed.

I'm not sure what this means. I'm hoping the editor can elaborate. However, on the chance that it means what I think it means, I have noticed that killing a creature only counts towards the 12 required when the sword blow does the killing. It does not count if the magic damage from the blade is what finally kills the target. It doesn't happen often, as the damage rating of the blade tends to be significantly higher than the damage of the effect in almost all cases. QuillanTalk 18:20, 3 April 2007 (EDT)

It doesn't trigger if a poison on the blade kills the enemy either... -- 18:28, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
I know what this guy is talking about, and it isn't just this sword. There has been several occasions where I've used a regular, unenchanted sword, did not cast any spells, let alone soul trap, yet somehow when I killed my enemy it trapped their soul automatically. 18:01, 7 August 2011 (UTC) Also-to the guy bitching about not signing posts if your not registered, the whole point is you can click an IP and see their history. Most peoples IPs don't change that often, so if someone is being a dick or vandalizing, it's easy to tell. (Referring to a post made way lower on this page)
What he said below was, don't sign comments using the name of an account if you aren't logged in. What had happened was, some anonymous user signed their post with a name (such as Quillan), instead of signing with ~s. The guy you're bitching about even added the IP into the sig of the anonymous user; he knows what he's doing. Calm down and play some Skyrim. -- 11:55, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Absorb Health???[edit]

The Superior version of Dawnfang/Duskfang in my game absorbs magicka on strike, not health. --Necaradan666

I was under the impression that Dawnfang absorbed health and Duskfang absorbed magicka (or was it vice versa?). So which one you get depends on the time of day. Is this incorrect? --TheRealLurlock Talk 09:42, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
Yes, the Superior Dawnfang absorbs health and the Superior Duskfang absorbs magicka. Nufy8 09:57, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

Maximum Charge[edit]

I am quite certain that Dawnfang Superior has a greater charge than Duskfang Superior. I will check my game later unless anybody else checks before me.--Divine Crusader 14:09, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

Yes, it does. It's on the page now. You probably didn't know that considering this a very old question. Oblivion nerd 22:15, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Dawnfang/Duskfang Dissapearing Act[edit]

I have a big problem on my Xbox 360 which both me and my brother have encountered. When I attacked an enemy NPC (Once a knight of Order soon after "addiction" and once a vampire in Gutted Mine) the Dawnfang/Duskfang dissapeared and was never seen again even after waiting for the next cycle of the blade. Naturally i returned to a previous save but cannot use the blade for fear of a repeat. Could anyone please help me out --Lavadragon 09:36, 27 August 2007 (EDT)

It sounds to me like the enemy disarmed you, i.e., knocked the weapon out of your hands and it fell to the ground. Or at least, that has happened me several times when fighting Knights of the Order while using Dawnfang/Duskfang. If that's the case, the sword should still be lying on the ground somewhere near where you were fighting (assuming you weren't unlucky enough to have it fall in a spot where it was able to fall through the floor). --NepheleTalk 13:04, 27 August 2007 (EDT)
>.< i suppose that was the most obvious thing to think of. I probably couldn't see it because it was dark ie a cave. --Lavadragon 14:37, 27 August 2007 (EDT)

Duskfang will not change![edit]

Hello. Several in-game days ago, my Duskfang sword stopped changing into Dawnfang. I reloaded an autosave and it changed, but then I went on my merry way, doing approximately 6 Mage's Guild quests. I noticed that it had stopped changing again. I am loath to have to redo all those quests (if I even have a save before it stopped changing.) I have a guess, though: While on horseback, a few days before it stopped changing, I received a second copy of Duskfang (due to a Duskfang/Dawnfang duping glitch covered in the Shivering:Glitches section; it's the first one under "Dawnfang/Duskfang on Horseback").

So, my question is this: Will dropping or storing that second unchanging copy of Duskfang restore this sword to its split personality?--Kittyboymaxj 19:37, 4 September 2007 (EDT)

Edit: Never mind! Dropping that second copy of Duskfang restored this sword to its schizoprenic glory. A tip for you all!

Ok, I had this problem, but it didn't change it (it was like 11:00 a.m.) then I waited 24 hours and, dropped the second copy and it worked, now I have both the Dawnfang and Duskfang.

Enchantment in Sword[edit]

I was wondering in the Dawnfang/Duskfang or any weapon of the sort if the Enchantment in it gets stronger as u level? Like if I get Dawnfnag/Duskfang at level 1 and it has 4 attack and 3pts frost/fire when I get to level 30 will it have 25 attack 15pts frost/fire damage? With the answer reply to this or edit it.. Or my email is Thanks for the help :D

Never mind I found that no it doesnt lvl with your person thank you for this article i was having the same troubles XD

Yeah, leveled items really stink when you get 'em at a low level. You're like, "Yeah, this is awesome!", but 20 levels later... wow..... this is an awful weapon. That's why I waited a LONG time to do the Shivering Isles. Oblivion nerd 22:18, 25 November 2008 (EST)

game glitch thing[edit]

whenever i equip the dawn or duskfang the game stops playing all noise exept for the current music. The only way for me to get the other sounds back is to reboot my console but i really dont want to do that cause its a waste of time. how do i fix it??

Getting Each Variation Over Time?[edit]

I assume that you would get all of the variations of the sword if you get it at lvl 1 and use until 30. I mean that if you are level 29 with the sword, and then if you level up to level 30, would you get the next variation of the blade (The lvl 30 one) or just still get the level 29 variation. — Unsigned comment by Kestral (talkcontribs) at 18:16 on 12 October 2008

Well, first of all, leveling is in groups. Ex: Levels 1-4, 5-9, etc. And to answer your question, the sword does not level with you. If you get it at level 1-4, you always have the 1-4 verions of it. However, each time it changes, its condition and charge is restored. --Darkle 18:40, 12 October 2008 (EDT)


I have 2 dawnfangs and i dont kno how it happend plz tell me — Unsigned comment by LuciusZelgius (talkcontribs) at 23:51 on 9 November 2008

there is a chance that you duplicated it without knowing it. if they still change bac and forth without a problem, looks like you have 2 great swords to play with. make sure to keep in a safe place.— Unsigned comment by (talk) at 23:13 on 28 June 2009
Hello there. I was just wanting to comment on this. I had this happen in a prior game and attempted to do it on purpose for a second character.I successfully did it. Fast traveling with thirst quenched dawnfang superior until after dusk I stepped off my horse. Then as duskfang was added I stepped back on my horse and opened my inventory simultaneously I had both! Dropping dawnfang before it could be removed. I now have one on display and one for use. If you drop them they do not disapear.I play on the 360 console with all paches and upgrades to the game so it is an unfixed bug. A good one in my opinion. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 06:42 on 17 July 2011

Does blade level affect sword level?[edit]

Like if I get Dawnfang/Duskfang at level 40 with 50 Blade Skill, would it have the same strength as a level 40 with level 100 blade? Oblivion nerd 22:20, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Like any other weapon, the sword itself would be the same, but it would do less damage because your skill is lower. If you got the sword at level 40 with 50 Blade skill, and then trained your Blade skill up to 100, it would do the same damage as it would if you were already at 100 Blade before you got the sword. The Fire/Frost damage is also the same, regardless of skill. --TheRealLurlock Talk 23:16, 25 November 2008 (EST)

Safe Duplication?[edit]

I was fighting my Shadow at the Grove of Reflection and the first swing he took at me with Shadowrend disarmed him so I snatched her sword. She then pulled out a Duskfang and swung that at me; again, disarmed, and I stole her sword again (crazy lucky disarms there :}). I was wondering if this second Duskfang I have is a safe dupe given that I didn't use any glitches to obtain it? It does not seem to change, however. Thanks in advance Janzo 14:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

It could be. I would say it's one of the safest dupes, considering you didn't actually cheat to get it. It doesn't change because your 'twin' isn't supposed to have a changing version, just a version of whatever you had at the time. You could keep it, although I would recommend using the true copy of the sword. --Oblivion nerd 21:48, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

In a Container...But it's gone![edit]

I recently stopped carrying Dawn/Duskfang around with me, and put it in an upstairs chest in Rosethorn Hall. After doing an unmarked quest (Lich of Lost Boy Cavern), I returned to see what happened to the sword. I looked in the chest, and it was not there. I tried waiting till the right time when I put it in there (it was in Duskfang form), and it still didn't appear. WTF!? Does it disappear like that normally? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 01:03 on 14 December 2009

Are you sure you didn't place it in a REPLINISHING container? 22:36, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
If you have a lot of items in the container, try taking some or all of them out and the sword may reappear. Oblivion has a bug where items can be in a container but just not appear on the list if there are a lot of them. Robin HoodTalk 22:47, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


if i get the sword at a level 4 if i level up will duskfang change to a higher leve dawnfang (or vice versa)?-- 21:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

As stated here, "It does not level with the player, it is only leveled to the PC's level when it is first received." ;) --MC S'drassa T2M 21:18, 10 January 2010 (UTC)


Correct me if I am wrong, but is the picture of Duskfang/Dawnfang mislabled? I thought the sword with the red/orange crystal was Dawnfang, and vice versa. --Kvaener 10:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

You're correct, and it's been fixed. Thanks for catching that. Dlarsh(T,C) 17:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
Anytime! --Kvaener 20:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Permanent Superior versions?[edit]

Upon getting a Superior version of Duskfang or Dawnfang, are those versions permanently Superior? As in, will they ever revert to just normal Duskfang or Dawnfang?--— Unsigned comment by (talk) on 5 August 2010

Please can you read the page before asking questions? The answer is already clearly given. Furthermore, please don't sign yourself with an account that you have not registered. rpeh •TCE 07:45, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

when u kill 12 people the blade would say "Dawnfang's thirst has been quenched" or vice versa. so the next time your weapon changes from duskfang to dawnfang, it would say "dawnfang superior". however, if u don't kill the 12 required kills with the dawnfang superior, it would revert back to a normal dawnfang. same for the duskfang. you would need to obtain 12 lives with each blade before it changes at 6am/pm (game time).

Thats annoying seeing that the superior versions are really awesome. — Unsigned comment by (talk) on 8 August 2010

Weird glitch from dawnfang[edit]

Hey guys errm, my dawnfang seem to be duplicating every time it changes from dawnfang to duskfang and vice versa. i dont get it. why? I mean, now i got like 7 dawnfangs and its emcumbering my every time i have 2 go sumwhere. Im lvl 66 right now but i would have been way higher if it wasnt for it I dont wanna drop em cos the weapon is seriously awesome but its really putting me off

someone help me how to get rid of this bug/glitch or watever u call it.

Does transforming work correctly with cheated sword?[edit]

So, i found that this sword will not be levelled with Quazzy's quest award leveller. But if i use cheat to get higher levelled sword, will transforming between Dawnfang/Duskfang and superior modes work correctly?

Corrupting Saves[edit]

I saved and the game auto-saved right at dusk and right as the swords were changing from dawnfang to duskfang, and both the regular and auto-save are corrupted. Anyone else have this error? 01:31, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

display cases[edit]

I don't really like relyng on enchantments in a weapon, because when they wear out, the weapon becomes useles. So, I use umbra mre than Dawn/duskfang. Well, I decided that instead of having a pretty useless weapon, I would put it in a display case at battlehorn castle, and then I realized that having a weapon change every 12 hours and just sitting there in a box in the bopen might cause issues, so I didnt keep it there. My question is does the sword still change if it is laying in a display case, or on yhe ground or somewhere similar, and if it does, is it safe to let it? — Unsigned comment by (talk)

I believe so yes, you could always do a test run a wait several days in the game to see for yourself. Western3589 06:03, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Looking at the script, I think the answer is "no". The sword only transforms if its in your inventory. Western3589 is right though - it would have been easier to test this for yourself. rpeh •TCE 08:00, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Ok, thanks, I would have tested it, but there was that.little voice in the back of my head saying. that it would somehow manage to mess sokething up...the voice is usually right — Unsigned comment by (talk) on 31 March 2011

Need for repair?[edit]

If either of the swords were damaged, when you next get them, would they be repaired, or would the damage stay? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 01:21 on 25 June 2011

As the article says, it is restored to 100% health every time it gets replaced. The only reason you might repair it is to get it to 125% if you're an expert armorer. --Legoless 00:30, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Duskfang Not Becoming Superior[edit]

I've had this happen twice now. I'll be killing people with Duskfang or Dawnfang and it will run out of charge, so I'll immediately recharge it. I'll get my 12 kills, it will announce that it's thirst has been quenched, but then I don't get the superior version of the weapon. I'm still killing people with the weapon, and it's no longer announcing the kills (it has charge) but it's not the superior version, nor does it have any of the enchantments of the superior version. This has happened twice now, I'm not sure if it's because it ran out of charge or what? -Updating this: I got my 12 kills while in Oblivion, just walking around not in the towers. Now, I'm all the way to the sigil stone room, and I'm using nothing but magic to kill the enemies, and my sword suddenly becomes Duskfang Superior, but the normal message that says "Duskfang removed" "Duskfang Superior equipped on player" never appeared. It just made that sound when you equip a weapon. 18:03, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

it changes to Duskfang superior at 6pm, you don't get the superior version right away. Kitkat1749 ;) 18:26, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Is it worth it?[edit]

Should i keep this overpowered oversized sword or will i just force to give it away durring a quest cause it awfully feels like one of those quest weapons that might disappear later. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 14:47 on 24 October 2011 (UTC)

You never have to get rid of Dawnfang and Duskfang for a quest. Unless something possesses you to sell it or you simply don't like it, there is no reason to ever get rid of it. --AKB Talk Cont Mail 14:47, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Is the leveling supposed to stop at PC level 30?[edit]

I just got this at level 36 and the stats are different for the blade than what the table says for 30+. It's got 27 attack instead of 25 but the weight and gold value are the same. Anyone know what's up? -- 10:00, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

The tables on the site list the Base damage, before it is modified by your Strength, Blade skill (almost said One-Handed xD), and such. The modified damage is what is listed in game. --DKong27 Tk Ctr Em 23:10, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

i lost dawnfang:([edit]

i was in the middle of a fight and i believe it was in duskfang this fight. when i got done with fighting the sword was gone. it didnt drop to the ground and it just completely disappeared:(. any idea how i can get it back? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 00:02 on 25 July 2012

Did it disappear completely, or were you disarmed? If you were disarmed, it should be on the ground somewhere near by. If it truly vanished, you can use the console to get it back, but only if you are playing on pc.--Playerjjjj 00:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC)Playerjjjj


  • Duskfang/Dawnfang can be duplicated by performing one of the following actions exactly when the blade changes (i.e., 6am/6pm):
    • Dropping Duskfang/Dawnfang
    • Mounting a horse with Duskfang/Dawnfang equipped
    • Fast traveling
    • Sleeping
  • If duplicated, the weapon will not change its form.
    • Easily fixed by dropping one of the duplicates.
This is an exploit, which is not allowed on the page. Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 16:09, 18 November 2013 (GMT)

Grommok's Blade[edit]

Is there a reason we aren't documenting this item? We have entries for things like Haskill's Suit, which can't even be seen in-game. —Legoless (talk) 14:25, 18 July 2014 (GMT)

I wasn't sure if we should or not. When I saw that it was relatively unnotable, I decided not to, but I can certainly add the details to the Shivering:Weapons page. Should be there in a couple of minutes. Robin Hood  (talk) 15:32, 18 July 2014 (GMT)

Repairing Duplication[edit]

Well, this was interesting. I got Dawnfang, repaired it to 125% just as the clock ticked over and got a 100% Duskfang, while keeping the Dawnfang. Not sure if this is something new, or just I never noticed it before. Coming back to Oblivion after a few years away, and it's still giving me weird stuff. Unless one of the mods did it, but the only weapon affecting stuff I have is WEPON, Immersive Weapons and one that adds mithril/orcish weapons (Had it separate from the other two before, not sure if I deactivated it again or not.) FMPhoenixHawk (talk) 03:27, 2 February 2019 (UTC)