User talk:The Raconteur/Rua

Morrowind:NPC Classes

I've never cared for the presentation of the NPC classes page, and I feel like there's a lot of wasted space on the page since nothing is particularly long on the page and it all sticks in one column on the left-hand side of the page with a lot of "white" space to the right. I also like the idea of using the trade descriptions in the page somewhere, as was discussed on the talk page some time ago, so with the aid of the Construction Set's raw dialogue data exported as a text document to browse through, I'm trying a couple of ideas for incorporating the text in the article.

Initially, my thought was in place of the generic one-liner describing the classes, as you'll see at the bottom of the page, but other formats are possible as well. If anyone wants to provide feedback or thoughts of some sort (or say it's a waste of my time if you want *shrug*), leave a thought or make an edit to the sandbox to show me your idea. The Raconteur (talk) 01:36, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

I've hit a bit of a snag in my idea of using the "my trade" dialogues in the proof of concept in place of the summary.

These are all of the "my trade" topic responses assigned to miners. Ignore the numbers in between that's Construction Set information that doesn't matter in this scenario, but you can see first we have the actual spoken dialogue, secondly, we have the class assigned to the dialogue "Miner", and in thethird set of quotation marks is the location that the topic is used in.

Unlike the Priest topic that had one for the Cult and one for the Temple, which could be put into two lines without issue, we have comments for each type of mine, and some vary based on location.

"my trade" Miner dialogue

• "I'm a diamond miner. It's hard work. The rock is hard, and the hours long. But it pays well." 30 -1 -1 "Miner" "Abaelun Mine"
• "I'm an raw glass miner. The raw glass deposits here on Vvardenfell are the richest in the world. The matrix is a very hard stone, and separating raw glass from the matrix is hard work. Hard, honest work that pays well." 30 -1 -1 "Miner" "Dissapla Mine"
• "I'm an raw glass miner. The raw glass deposits here on Vvardenfell are the richest in the world. The matrix is a very hard stone, and separating raw glass from the matrix is hard work. Hard, honest work that pays well." 30 -1 -1 "Miner" "Dunirai Caverns"
• "I'm an raw glass miner. The raw glass deposits here on Vvardenfell are the richest in the world. The matrix is a very hard stone, and separating raw glass from the matrix is hard work. Hard, honest work that pays well." 30 -1 -1 "Miner" "Halit Mine"
• "I'm an raw glass miner. The raw glass deposits here on Vvardenfell are the richest in the world. The matrix is a very hard stone, and separating raw glass from the matrix is hard work. Hard, honest work that pays well." 30 -1 -1 "Miner" "Yassu Mine"
• "I'm an ebony miner. This is dangerous work. And we are dangerous miners. Do not touch our ebony." 30 -1 -1 "Miner" "Yanemus Mine"
• "I'm an ebony miner. The raw ebony deposits here on Vvardenfell are the richest in the world. The matrix is a very hard stone, and separating ebony from the matrix is hard work. Hard, honest work that pays well." 30 -1 -1 "Miner" "Elith-Pal Mine"
• "I'm an ebony miner. The raw ebony deposits here on Vvardenfell are the richest in the world. The matrix is a very hard stone, and separating ebony from the matrix is hard work. Hard, honest work that pays well." 30 -1 -1 "Miner" "Sudanit Mine"
• "I'm an ebony miner. The raw ebony deposits here on Vvardenfell are the richest in the world. The matrix is a very hard stone, and separating ebony from the matrix is hard work. Hard, honest work that pays well." 30 -1 -1 "Miner" "Caldera"

"I am a miner. Usually here on Vvardenfell, being a miner means you're an eggminer. Scrib jerky and scrib jelly, kwama eggs and kwama cuttle are the basis of our Vvardenfell economy. Yes, there are more valuable resources we take from mines -- raw ebony, raw glass, dreugh wax, daedra skin, daedra heart, diamond, ash salts, and so forth -- and that's good work, too. But it's the eggminers that feed Morrowind, and bring cash from all over the Empire." ";Miner; egg mines ecology" 30 -1 -1 "Miner" Not Cell Yanemus Mine = 1.00 Not Cell Elith-Pal Mine = 1.00 Not Cell Sudanit Mine = 1.00 Not Cell Mausur Caverns = 1.00 Not Cell Caldera Mine = 1.00 Not Cell Abaelun Mine = 1.00

The glass and ebony ones would be easy. I can put that like this, since they are word for word the same otherwise, something I did with the gendered line to the Savant:

I'm (an ebony/a glass) miner. The raw (ebony /glass) deposits here on Vvardenfell are the richest in the world. The matrix is a very hard stone, and separating (ebony/glass) from the matrix is hard work. Hard, honest work that pays well.

That leaves extra dialogue, though. We have the diamond miner - "I'm a diamond miner. It's hard work. The rock is hard, and the hours long. But it pays well." - and we have the egg miner - "I am a miner. Usually here on Vvardenfell, being a miner means you're an eggminer. Scrib jerky and scrib jelly, kwama eggs and kwama cuttle are the basis of our Vvardenfell economy. Yes, there are more valuable resources we take from mines -- raw ebony, raw glass, dreugh wax, daedra skin, daedra heart, diamond, ash salts, and so forth -- and that's good work, too. But it's the eggminers that feed Morrowind, and bring cash from all over the Empire.".

If there was one generic dialogue that could serve for all three, I would have used it, but we've got three different dialogues, one of which is more of a descriptive paragraph, throws a spanner in the works when you want to share the information, but it not be too much and overshadow the actual substance of the article. I still like the initial idea I had for presentation, but it will need work here, and in the Nobles section for sure, which also has House based comments and a generic Imperial comment.

As always, some kind of feedback or ideas on my little project to pretty-up the page and make more efficient use of space wouldn't hurt. The Raconteur (talk) 16:15, 16 February 2017 (UTC)