Oblivion talk:The Renegade Shadowscale

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Amount of Gold in Stump[edit]

The amount of gold in the stump is level dependant. I only got a whopping 100 gold from it, but I was about level 5-6 at the time. Quillan 09:50, 26 April 2006 (EDT)

I was at level 16 and got 400 gold.-- 23:43, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
FWIW: I stumbled on Bogwater while exploring, without having started the quest. No one was there, and I got the gold from the stump anyway! Zompist 01:09, 13 June 2006 (EDT)
The gold is the leveled DB quest reward.


I did this mission after i did the purification .. what to do now.. can i write a message in console that i will get the next mission .. just as with caught in the hunt.. cause the argonian in Cheydinhal is gone.. :P — Unsigned comment by Sacha007 (talkcontribs)

You could type a command to move the quest to completed quests, but it wouldn't give you the reward. You would have to do another command to add the reward item to your inventory. I'm not sure on the commands though, hope that helps.--BigRussian 09:52, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Console Commands?[edit]

Can someone PLEASE post the console command to set this quest as done ?? I did the purification, now the quest is stuck in my diary...— Unsigned comment by Sooker (talkcontribs)

Got it myself, place him in the Sanctuary with player.placeatme 00023E34, and finish the quest. - Sooker 09:36, 21 September 2006 (EDT)

Where's the Lizard?[edit]

I know the other assassin from the royal court is near the camp, to the west, under a tree, but for the life of me I can't find him! I'm doing this before I've started the Purification quest, so there's no bugs that should be hindering me here. Could someone please give me some really specific directions to the other dead assassin so I can finish this thing? --WerdnanoslenTalk 18:51, 21 May 2007 (EDT)

If you stand by the campfire and look west (maybe WSW) there's a pretty obvious large tree. It's really the only tree that stands out in that direction. The assassin's body is right under that tree (in my game his foot is actually touching the tree trunk) on the northwest side; he's somewhat gray and can blend in with the rocks, but his orange tail tends to stand out and make him obvious. Or else from the spot where you appear when you fast-travel to the camp, the tree is WNW; the distance to the tree is about the same as the distance to the campsite (although in a different direction of course). The assassin's body doesn't appear until you start this quest, but from then on it should be permanent... I just returned to the campsite 24 days after completing the quest, and it was still there. --NepheleTalk 23:48, 21 May 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for that. I haven't looked yet, but that should definitely be specific enough. I was looking around the site for about 10 minutes and got a headache from looking at the ground for so long :P. --WerdnanoslenTalk 16:41, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Two Hearts?[edit]

Is it possible to agree to his offer, and then kill him so that you would have two hearts? — Unsigned comment by (talk)

Yes you can have two hearts. When I did the quest, I left one and picked it up later. I'm not sure what would happen if you have both hearts when you report back, but it may be a glitch similar to the one where you get to rings for Ahjardi, but she only takes one and it doesn't complete the quest. It is perfectly safe to take the other heart after the quest. It is even a non-quest item, so you can display it.--Xyntfos 14:49, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
It's safe to take both hearts when doing the quest, I've tried it three times or so with different characters. Icko 18:27, 7 December 2008 (EST)


Pardon me for posting under the wrong category (Category fixed - RobinHood70), but my computer had a glitch, too. I looked around the tree for about ten minutes trying to find he body that just wasn't there. In my inventory, i found "potion of nighteye". I drank it and.....WhaLa!! The body appeared right next to the tree! :) — Unsigned comment by (talk)

Missing Argonian Agent[edit]

Moved here from article:

Sometimes the corpse of the sleeper agent will not appear. The map-marker will simply point towards the tree where the corpse is supposed to be found.

Is it possible to get more details on the conditions under which this has been seen to occur? Because right now I'm inclined to suspect that it's caused by a third-party mod, in which case it doesn't belong in the bugs section. The corpse is a quest item, so it won't disappear on its own. And it is set to appear when the quest is started, so I don't see how it would be possible to get the quest without the corpse appearing. Furthermore, without some details on what causes it or how to avoid it, it's not really a useful tip for readers. --NepheleTalk 01:48, 23 November 2007 (EST)

I came to this place because this bug occurred for me. I am using the Xbox 360 version of Oblivion, and there are no modifications installed. I'm right at the tree described above, the map marker is pointing here, and no body. --Rimbo — Unsigned comment by (talk)
OK, that was weird... I saved the game, quit back to the Main Menu, reloaded... and the body has magically reappeared. Recommend this for anyone else having this problem. — Unsigned comment by (talk)
This happened to me as well on XBox 360 and after "searching" for a good 15 minutes I found your suggestion. Saving and reloading made him appear. Thanks for your help! -D
It happened to me as well, but on the PC version. I was looking everywhere for so long, 'til I read this. Saving, closing the game and reloading my saved game also worked. Strange. I do use mods, but none of them should be tempering with the quest. I am also using the latest unofficial patches. — Unsigned comment by (talk)
Ditto above solution. I have no mods on my Xbox version so that cannot be the cause. — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 09:04 on 4 August 2009 (UTC)
This also worked for me. I quicksaved facing the tree, instantly reloaded the save and he appeared (along with a weird noise). -- 20:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
It is indeed a glitch, I swam around in the ocean for a while, and when I came back he was there, albeit floating. — Unsigned comment by (talk) on 3:38, 11 June 2010
That was odd that others can re-occur this, since I typed that original message when I was modded. It could have been UOPS at fault but I would never know, at this point. Reloading the save fixed it, though.Megaman (talk) 23:22, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Shadowscales are forbidden to kill each other...[edit]

...so, is this quest unavailable if your character is also a Shadowscale (an Argonian born under the sign of the Shadow)?Nifhelton 10:49, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

No it's still available to argonians born under the sign of the shadow. --Volanaro 10:54, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
Your character is not a shadowscale under those conditions, as the shadowscale is a government agent of the Black marsh, not a breed of Argonian. The birthsign is just what the government of Black Marsh decided its assassins should be born under, for the special ability. Your character was, apparently, not born in Black Marsh. Lem0nhead 22:14, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Which raises another question: If Shadowscales are indeed forbidden to kill each other, why did the government of Black Marsh send a Shadowscale to kill Scar-Tail, anyway? Or is the Argonian assassin just a regular assassin that happens to be Argonian? Bauglir100 03:58, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
I think you've answered your own question there... --Gaebrial 15:54, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

You don't have to drop a heart[edit]

"Note that if you decide to kill Scar-Tail and take both hearts to Teinaava, the automatic conversation with him will not start. To proceed, you will need to drop one of the hearts." Can anyone confirm this? I've done this quest at least three times with both hearts in my inventory and I have never needed to drop a heart in order to complete it. I'm playing on the Xbox 360, if that matters. Icko 18:40, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Good spot. I've tested that and it's definitely false. The scripting clearly says that you can complete the quest if the number of hearts in your inventory >= 1, not == 1. I've removed that line from the article. –RpehTCE 04:10, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Bug in the quest description[edit]

At one point, after you've spoken to Scar-Tail and chosen to let him live, it says "I have agreed to spare Scar-Tail's life. I must take the heart of the dead Argonian assassin, and present that to Teinaava instead. To thank me, Teinaava has shared the secret hiding place of his treasure -- in the hollowed-out rock near Bogwater campfire." This isn't right at all! Teinaava didn't share the hiding place of his treasure, Scar-Tail did! It reminded me of this bug: "After you defeat the Gray Prince, the commentator incorrectly states "See the Blademaster to collect your winnings..." when in fact you have to see the Battle Matron." From this page: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Arena_(faction) So I figured I'd post it. — Unsigned comment by (talk) on 16 June 2009

It's already covered at this page. See the Journal Entries. It's just a simple journal error. --Timenn < talk > 09:47, 16 June 2009 (EDT)

He was dead when I got there![edit]

Worth mentioning that if the target dies somehow before you get there (I blame the oblivion gate nearby) the quest can still work? — Unsigned comment by (talk) on 17 January 2010

Not really, since it already says that it works with any Argonian heart... it should be pretty obvious that it doesn't matter if Scar-Tail dies before you get there. --GKtalk2me 05:02, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Dark Brotherhood quest or not?[edit]

When Teinaava talks to you about this quest she clearly mentions that this quest has nothing to do with the Dark Brotherhood. Additionally, there is a very specific procedure one should follow in order to give a "job" to the D.B., and Teinaava hadn't done so. Last but not least this quest, unlike all the D.B. quests, doesn't give you any Infamy points. But here on wiki it is categorized as a D.B. quest. In game also, the quest has the D.B. icon on your journal, i believe that's a bug though. 23:48, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

No, I disagree with the quest icon being a bug as I think it has the DB icon because it was a member of the DB who gave your the quest. --ModderElGrande 00:14, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
I take the point, but it's a quest you can only receive by joining the DB and you even have to have completed the DB quest line up to a certain point before you can receive it. It may not be an "official" DB quest, but it's certainly a DB quest. rpeh •TCE 00:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Exactly. --ModderElGrande 21:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


I spared Scar-Tail and took the other Argonian's heart to Teinaava, but he hasn't told me where the treasure is yet and he doesn't have any dialogue options for it. Where is it? -- 06:04, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Gah, never mind. I just noticed it in the journal entry. -- 06:05, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Running Away Glitch?[edit]

I tried to kill Scar-Tail but missed and he started running away so I chased him but he went over the border? Now I can't reach him and he has stopped moving. I've ignored him and switched quests, but every time I go back no matter how much time has passed he's still where I can't even see him.

If you're playing on the PC, you can try searching past the borders by disabling border blocks as described in Oblivion:Ini Settings. If you're playing on a console, it might be a bit more difficult. Not sure if you already knew this, but there's a dead Argonian agent nearby with the heart that you need. You can just take that heart and fool Teinaava into thinking Scar-Tail is dead. Facebag 18:09, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm on the xbox360 and it's not really the quest I want to finish as much as wanting to kill him at this point.

What if Teinaava is dead??[edit]

Im pretty sure that, this is unsolvable and is due to me not doing the quest when i should have but...

i accepted the quest of Teinaava but then didnt go and do it. I have risen to the the rank of listener in the dark brotherhood and i had to kill Teinaava not realising i hadn't done this quest. now i have gone to do it but i cant return to him as he is dead. Is there any command to respawn him so i can finish the quest?? or will i just have the the quest uncompleted for ever and annoying me??? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 12:29 on November 25, 2011

The first problem listed in Bugs is literally exactly what you are asking. --DKong27 Tk Ctr Em 17:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Heart missing?[edit]

I did the quest while doing the purification, I had the hearts, but now...there gone, I have no clue what happened to them, is there a player.additem to get a heart that I can give to Teinaava? I had two but there both gone and I can't complete the quest now, I already player.placeateme 00023e34 but now i don't apparently have the heart to give, any sugestions? — Unsigned comment by (talk) at 21:21 on 14 April 2013

The code for the heart is "0003558F". Silence is GoldenBreak the Silence 03:22, 6 May 2013 (GMT)

The renegade after purification[edit]

I already did the purification quest and now i want to do the renegade shadowscale quest but im playing on the XBox, How do i do it?— Unsigned comment by (talk) at 20:06 on 6 November 2015 (GMT)